【Chat】Hey :' D

[Krislih 10]

Well, since nobody started a new topic.... i will do it.

Let's talk about some stuff like music, for some reasons, i still do not understand why people in taiwan adore artists such as good charlotte, linkin park, blink 182, sum 41... and those artists people talked about in the foreign music forum. For me though, i like music in its all forms, but in those discussions, people are always talkin about the same band/ artist, i do not mean to say that those people are lacking music taste or the motivationto find new music. It is disappointing that everytime when i introduced a new artisit or a band, there will only be perhaps just one dude or one chick left a comment... that is it, finished! I guess i am complaining, but, really! We need to listen to more different artists and different music types, ehh???

What do you all think?

[MikiRei 10]

Haha! Yes - I find most people here, when you ask to discuss about music or books, it's always the same titles but hey! Think about it. You think Taiwan REALLY has a broad exposure to all the music there is out there? I don't think even in the Western society many people have the right amount of exposure to *cool* music. I mean, if you listen to generic radio stations, you're only ever going to find Christina, Rihanna, Pink, Linkin Park etc.etc. (who, in my opinion are NOT true musicians - excluding Linkin Park - they're ok. Take Rihanna for example. She can't even SING and of course, I love it how her fans will defend by saying, "Oh, but she's only human! I bet YOU can't sing as well as her."

1. She can't sing and I mean, she can't. Her voice was digitally enhanced as are many other "singers" *cough*. Check this vid:

2. Her profession is a singer, no? If that's your profession, then you're expected to sing professionally. It is IRRELEVANT whether or not normal people can or cannot sing better than her. It's her PROFESSION. She's supposed to do better. If she's only average, requires external technology to make her *sound* professional and can't write her own music or ATTEMPTS to do so but comes up with sub-standard, generic lyrics (because the music is always written by someone else), then I have EVERY reason to criticize her all the way

*end rant*)

Yes, we need more exposure to a wide range of music. The radio stations are being PAID to play those music anyways. Ok - I'm posting random music links now:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQVdlxql8PQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrwL4rdpKFM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mp7PadUoYwA (Warning - just warning)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5glBob5P1F8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JHy-3kIb8o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vhDJikOLzs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwWRFh-MQ8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iY03r3ZlZQ

Bobby Flynn: (the ONLY contestant on Australian Idol that I actually liked)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmUBnjXRt_0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heNOwIPVXlQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWrikCtC060

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6daMiV76fI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpsw4aTZdlE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4f6UnF70V8M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-6fYCMqSN4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpK8WdCsYzk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMEGPCA2Sr4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dmVU08zVpA

JEFF BUCKLEY:

Man, I can't stress enough. Jeff Buckley RULES! Why is it that ALL the good musicians have to die so early? It's not fair! Anyways, just listen to everything here. Lovely flash player that has all his songs. Recommend Live at Sine and Grace. (album name that is)

http://www.jeffbuckley.com/prt/prt.html

This is my friend's music:

http://www.triplejunearthed.com/Artists/View.aspx?artistid=11708

As for the site, just a bunch of aspiring artists placing their music on triple J unearthed and see if they get enough votes to have their music aired.

Chris Cornell's cover of Michael Jackson's "Billie Jeans"

Classical Music:

Ginastera's Danse del Guacho Matrero (love this! Played it in year 10 and still love it :p)

Penderecki's "Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima and Nagasaki"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dx0TN0I_Io

Stravinsky's "Rite of Spring - Adoration of the Earth" (my favourite part :p:p)

Saint-Saens - Introduction et Rondo Capriccioso - played by Heifetz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRHlZho5xm8

Ravel's Bolero (2 parts) Note: Turn volume REALLY high else you won't be able to hear the initial snare drums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWMs_663KUA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcKhpIAhrm0

*shrug* I'm done for tonight

[berry 10]

i think it's cuz of the commerce.

bands/artists as what you mentioned above are played over and over again on MTV which makes most of Taiwanese deem that there are ONLY those artists on the earth.

i currentl adore Teco. rock.etc etc, the ones for scenes.

[MikiRei 10]

Yeah....we are living in a commercialised world - unfortunately. The business drives the production of technology/artists etc.etc. (anything these days) and not the other way around.

The music scene of today is to recycle what's been successful over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. Producers do not like to try anything new for they're scared that it won't catch on and will fail. Using something that's been successful is more guaranteed to be successful again. Unfortunately, this leads to the music scene not ever changing or improving for the past 20 years!

TV and radio stations, well, like any business (these days there are yet another business), want return of money, so as long as the recording labels pay them enough money, they'll keep playing the music over and over and over and over. The unfortunate fact is that, because we see them all the time on TV, their style and music had become internalised into our mental system, coupled with how fast people's lives go by these days, hardly anyone have time to stop and think, "Hey! They've been feeding us the same trash for over 20 years!" There's also the social side of thing - peer pressure. We've come to think that whatever's shown on TV is considered the current trend - the "in" thing. Especially in high school culture (which, unfortunately, is the main market of the current entertainment world *sigh*), if you're not into what's "in", you're not considered cool. This ideology unfortunately leads to the fact that many people are FORCED to accept or to like whatever's shown on TV because, in a way, it makes them feel "cool" *cough*

Wait - so what was my point? Hmmmm - I don't think I had one. I just ranted. Stop relying on what's given to you. If you start to believe or eat in everything's that fed to you without stopping and asking, you're slowly and gradually, becoming a slave/clone of the commercial machine. Bleh - whatever - I think I need to sleep at normal hours *5th day running sleeping at 4/5/6am* >_>

[damoko 10]

Well Myspace has a lot of great songs. I dont listen to one particular artists music (okay mcfly excepted :p theyre just so lovely)

[berry 10]

Well Myspace has a lot of great songs. I dont listen to one particular artists music (okay mcfly excepted :p theyre just so lovely)

lol im using Myspace now listening to LM.C's music.

Perfection.

[MikiRei 10]

Yeah....MySpace do have a fair bit of artists there.....but I hate that site so I don't REALLY go there - I prefer YouTube :p

[Krislih 10]

Yeah....MySpace do have a fair bit of artists there.....but I hate that site so I don't REALLY go there - I prefer YouTube :p

Good choice really :D

However, i cannot expect that everyone does the same thing like we do, because we are just better at it( take it easy ;)). I mean, those websites are in english, some people might not be able to comprehend the language... you know :P

so it might make things quite hard for them to do, like.... Jeff Buckley, i doubt there is chinese websites for him. Not even my current favourite band, Disco Ensemble... haha

i do suggest people to try it though, so much better than commercialised LKP, Rihanna( she is not even from the US! and she is trying to teach you how to spell umbrella by saying e, e, e, ella, ella ella, oh jesus christ!)

[MikiRei 10]

*shudder* Rihanna - she annoys me so much. What's with her voice? Sounds like a crow >_> - and the music video - I really don't need yet another young pop "artist" *cough* half naked (or just naked), strutting along and posing weird poses.

As for the language barrier thing, well, fair enough, but I don't really think it's hard to browse through YouTube. You're just clicking on random videos really. I think it may also have to do with this extra factor in Taiwan where English songs are considered "cool" so everyone just soaks up whatever English song they hear on radio and unfortunately, radio stations only play the ones that had paid them, leaving people with little or no choice.

[berry 10]

Good choice really :D

However, i cannot expect that everyone does the same thing like we do, because we are just better at it( take it easy ;)). I mean, those websites are in english, some people might not be able to comprehend the language... you know :P

so it might make things quite hard for them to do, like.... Jeff Buckley, i doubt there is chinese websites for him. Not even my current favourite band, Disco Ensemble... haha

i do suggest people to try it though, so much better than commercialised LKP, Rihanna( she is not even from the US! and she is trying to teach you how to spell umbrella by saying e, e, e, ella, ella ella, oh jesus christ!)

LMAO

just like Gwen Stefani teaching people how to to spell BANANA

(but I still like her XD)

then where is she from 0_o?

Ireland or so ???????

[MikiRei 10]

Ireland? Doesn't sound Irish to me.....

[damoko 10]

Yeah....MySpace do have a fair bit of artists there.....but I hate that site so I don't REALLY go there - I prefer YouTube :p

IMO both sites are good. If youre talking about their f*ing registration, yes it really annoys me - I still dont have an account there. Has anyone else registered successfully? Anyways I just listen to good music, no matter what the artist is :p

[Krislih 10]

well, Rihanna is from the Barbados and she is currently 19 i think :p

To Damoko: you had problems with registrating myspace? what is the deal?

because i did not have problems as far as registrating

[【 i'm 阿布 】 10]

Hi, I come here just want to pratice my English. My grammer is very poor, and also my spelling, so, please don't mind if I make some stupid mistakes. By the way, my favorite star is Avril. Her songs are my favorite. I'd like to make some abroad friends here.

[Krislih 10]

Hi, I come here just want to pratice my English. My grammer is very poor, and also my spelling, so, please don't mind if I make some stupid mistakes. By the way, my favorite star is Avril. Her songs are my favorite. I'd like to make some abroad friends here.

Awww, do not be a worry little puppy :D

do not feel bad, and do not apologize !

ps. if you wanna express who is your favourite idol... you should go to question which it asks Who is your favourite idol :D thanks!

[damoko 10]

well, Rihanna is from the Barbados and she is currently 19 i think :p

To Damoko: you had problems with registrating myspace? what is the deal?

because i did not have problems as far as registrating

Whenever I want to sign up, it always says "There was an error processing your request, please try again." (and Ive tried for about 3 months) Dont know whether theyve blocked ips from taiwan or not :(

[Krislih 10]

ummmm, maybe you should get a new account? since it sounds suspecious that i think yours got hacked... well it was only a guess

[MikiRei 10]

If youre talking about their f*ing registration, yes it really annoys me

MySpace or YouTube? Both are easy to sign up for me (though I hate MySpace because

1. It has way too many stupid teenagers on there

2. I get too many "friend"requests from frigging aspiring musicians

3. The worst coding ever. My friend hacked into a private profile within 3 seconds

)

By the way, my favorite star is Avril.

Hmmm - Avril....she can't sing either - I'm sorry, but it's true. Listen to her music. In fact, listen to her latest one, "When You're Gone." Nice song - ok lyrics - nice music video - but it's obvious they had to flesh out her voice. Also, hear her live. She goes out of tune. Those 2 factors puts me off an artist straight away.

Dont know whether theyve blocked ips from taiwan or not

Maybe. *shrug* Try facebook. Much better. :p

[damoko 10]

3. The worst coding ever. My friend hacked into a private profile within 3 seconds

0_o

Id better not sign up there

Maybe. *shrug* Try facebook. Much better. :p

Ive made an account at facebook - its good, but I can hardly find any artists *perhaps im not used to it yet :p*

[MikiRei 10]

Errr - artist? If you're just looking for music artists, then use MySpace. You don't even need to sign up to find artists on MySpace. That's the whole purpose of artists using the music network on MySpace - promotion! In fact, their MySpace usually consist of them linking to YouTube videos so you might as well just search through YouTube for artists.

Facebook is really just for online networking - SECURE networking (kind of. Now they want to do public listing, making your profile Googlable >_>) or as I call it, MySpace for nerds with stupid teenagers and spammers excluded.

Id better not sign up there

Haha - well, technically, if you don't put any real details or photos on these profiles, what are these people going to do if they DO manage to hack into your profile? Nothing really. This is why I always use fake names when I sign up to things. I don't need my real information up on the net somewhere for people to view. (In fact, your MSN conversation is now legally viewable by American security - careful what you say these days *coughwereplanningtobombthewhitehousethisdecembercough*)

EDIT: Actually, you can find musicians on facebook - you just need to add the correct applications. Currently, there's like five band applications - none of which are to my liking really but whatever. Try them if you want. (considering writing an application of my own)