信義之忍 10 發表於 April 15, 2008 檢舉 Share 發表於 April 15, 2008 還有我不覺得女生上戰場男生該沒有面子我從頭到尾都沒說!拜託~女人上戰場是驕傲的事!From the words in your post at 134#I know what you really refers to..........女人上戰場是驕傲的事!如此情形,以歷史為參考,幾乎都是被逼無奈,以至於如此而非情之所愿。瘦弱的不能上戰場的婦女,幼女,當城池被圍沒有供給糧草時,they will be boiled and then eaten up as usual.還有歷史上很多男性那是因為那時重男輕女所以歷史上都男人!所以不等於大部分的女生在人格堅韌度比男生差除非有舉出女性比男性差的歷史事件不過那一定不多!或者該說沒有?重男輕女作為一種意識形態,是當時社會的一種潮流及儒家思想所誘導出的普遍共識,同時,要考慮到古代的生產方式與工業革命后的近現代生產方式差異很大,可以說,女性今天地位的相對提升,歸因于“女性生產力productivity能力的提高。且觀念,社會關係等可以隨著時代而進步,但是我們不能因為今天的進步就去認為古人的是一無是處,完全沒有道理。furthermore 你有聽說過金枝玉葉這個詞彙,以及像西漢呂后,東漢竇太后,鄧太后,梁太后以及近代的慈禧太后等等這些專權擅政的女人么,所謂重男輕女,不是完全如此的。上星期天看了英文版的TITANIC,就用這個故事的一些例子來說說男人在危機時刻表現的是多么的偉岸,多么的有氣概。With "Women and children first" the imperative for loading lifeboats, Second Officer Lightoller, who was loading boats on the port side, allowed men on only if oarsmen were needed and for no other reason, even if there was room. First Officer Murdoch, who was loading boats on the starboard side, let men on board if women were absent.大家都看過麽,知道safeboats are not enough to loads all people,絕大多數男人都把上safeboats的機會留給了女人和孩子,他們與go down with the vessel 1500多人遇難99%都是男人。 "We've dressed up in our best and are prepared to go down like gentlemen." He also gave a survivor a message saying, "If anything should happen to me, tell my wife I've done my best in doing my duty." he lost in the disaster. His bodies, if recovered, were never identified.-----------1912年的一位美國百萬富翁在臨死前說的,以目前之貨幣購買力推算,他差不多可以算的上是億萬富翁了。Benjamin GuggenheimAmerican journalist and mystery writerFutrelle, a first-cabin passenger, refused to board a lifeboat insisting his wife board instead, according to his wife, with the belief that her boarding would give him a better chance of surviving; he perished in the Atlantic.Benjamin Guggenheim持的是上等倉的船票,他可以得到上safeboat的機會,但是他沒有,而是把機會讓給了女人和孩子。Francis Davis Millet (November 3, 1846 - April 15, 1912) was an American painter and writer。He was last seen helping women and children into lifeboats. His body was recovered after the sinking by the cable boatTitanic captain Edward J. Smith informed Butt military aide to U.S. presidents Theodore Roosevelt and William Howard Taft that the "ship was doomed" and that "lifeboats were being readied." Butt immediately began acting as another officer of the ship, herding women and children into the lifeboats. One account tells of Butt staving off desperate steerage men trying to crowd the boats to escape.服務過兩位總統的副官,臨危不懼,得知情況後立即投入到維持秩序之中。並最終遇難。Wallace Hartley and his fellow band members started playing music to help keep the passengers calm as the crew loaded the lifeboats. Many of the survivors claimed that he and the band continued to play till the very end. None of the band members survived the sinking and the story of them playing to the end became a popular legend.Wallace Hartley先生和他的樂隊同仁一起為安撫人們焦躁的心情而演奏,直至最後的沈沒,他們幾人也全部遇難。MR.George Dunton WidenerAfter the ship struck an iceberg, Widener placed his wife and her maid in a lifeboat. The pair were rescued by the steamship RMS Carpathia. George Dunton Widener and his son Harry both went down with the ship; their bodies, if recovered, were not identified.喬治先生把他的妻子和妻子的女仆推上safeboat最後和他的兒子一些沈沒于大西洋。至於女人國只是種誇飾意思是女人根本不需要男人的意思不過聽說這種女人也不多!(我都不懂為什麼?)以後會明白了解的 that's all。 鏈接文章 分享到其他網站
信義之忍 10 發表於 April 15, 2008 檢舉 Share 發表於 April 15, 2008 女人國 我想起亞馬遜女戰士古代很多民族男女都有參戰 高盧、日爾曼人、賽爾特人、賽西亞人等等凱撒在高盧作戰時就有記錄羅馬軍團跟這些蠻族交戰時有碰到女兵 這些女兵打起仗來也跟男人的能力差不多 越是進步的文明反而把女人給壓制了文明以後,女人權利越來越大了吧,好多國家都有女總統,古代,女的都是不可以離婚的,只有男的給休書才可以離。 鏈接文章 分享到其他網站
信義之忍 10 發表於 April 15, 2008 檢舉 Share 發表於 April 15, 2008 想想8年抗戰時期,很多將士陣亡的時候,連個名字都沒留下,還什麽傳宗接代呢,如今的孩子真是越來越矯情了。 鏈接文章 分享到其他網站
zvx 10 發表於 April 15, 2008 檢舉 Share 發表於 April 15, 2008 誰想去打呀=.=多我一個少我一個 對戰爭勝負影響=0(我又不是戰神...假如我刀槍不入 吐口痰就變核彈 那不上就該死)但我死或不死 對我影響是一切稍微想過就知道不該去打:)跟戰爭的意義與否無關 再偉大也不該去另外也同意樓上說的干傳宗接代屁事xd我的論點 就是堅守生物最基本且重要的美德與本能----貪生怕死傳宗接代個屁xd 鏈接文章 分享到其他網站
leiwine 10 發表於 April 15, 2008 檢舉 Share 發表於 April 15, 2008 文明以後,女人權利越來越大了吧,好多國家都有女總統,古代,女的都是不可以離婚的,只有男的給休書才可以離。我這裡指的文明是指『古代』,女權運動要在近代才有令外古代女子休夫是準許的,例如『覆水難收』的成語就是這個例子 漢代的道德規範很鬆,女子改嫁的也在當代很常見,姓氏也不一定傳自父親,姓母姓的還不少,儒家的規範基本上並沒有在當代有太大規範,儒家其實也沒那麼多堅持,也沒有根深柢固,漢代女子是可以主動提出離婚的。一直到宋代理學興起女子地位才受到嚴重限制壓迫,開始出現纏足等陋習出現,婦女的地位就大不如前。 鏈接文章 分享到其他網站
阿斯拉 10 發表於 April 28, 2008 檢舉 Share 發表於 April 28, 2008 我是覺得投降快一點現在深深這麼覺得還有我不覺得女生上戰場男生該沒有面子我從頭到尾都沒說!拜託~女人上戰場是驕傲的事!還有歷史上很多男性那是因為那時重男輕女所以歷史上都男人!所以不等於大部分的女生在人格堅韌度比男生差除非有舉出女性比男性差的歷史事件不過那一定不多!或者該說沒有?至於女人國只是種誇飾意思是女人根本不需要男人的意思不過聽說這種女人也不多!(我都不懂為什麼?)重點是現在差了112票!期待兩百票的差距!男生加油~哀太誇張了女人上戰場不就等於男生跑光光或掛光光= = 鏈接文章 分享到其他網站
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