【Chat】communism and capitalism

[Catta 10]

Recently I was thinking about the pros and cons of these two.

Have anyone read the book "1984" by George Orwell or seen the movie "V for vendetta" ?

Here's the introduction of 1984 in online bookstore

Here's the website of the movie "V for vendetta"

I think these two stories have something in common - both of them are talking about communism.

It seems that in the end both the two stories are trying to tell us that capitalism is better.....

any comments? (H)

[abtvctkto61 10]

I've read 1984 and seen V.

Actually communism isn't that bad, it's sort of a Utopia concept.But, since most people are greedy and wants more money after having even a lot, commusim simply won't work.

Communism gives a handful of people power over mass majority, and since it is the nature of human to lust for more power, people below will give whatever they have for this enormous power, and anyone who gets this power will try their hardest protecting it, hence war, etc. Ideally, it just puts everyone to the same standpoint.

Capitalism is sort of a softer communism, replacing power with money. People who have loads of money influence, if not control, the political situation of the area. The reason I'm saying that capitalism is softer thancommunism is because of free marketing. It is easy for one person to get rich to a certain point, but going beyond that point will be really hard.

I can't judge which one is 'better', because it really depends on many factors, but I prefer capitalism. Capitalism, in my opinion, gives people more motive to actually work, because the only only way you're going to survive is to work, as opposed to communism.

BTW, I don't think the movie and the book focus mainly on capitalism and communism, it's more about totalitarianism.

[訪客]

If I'm not mistaken, capitalism actulally refer to the way those puritans around 18th century were: They invest all their money into the market, and when they get any profit, they invest those money as capitals again. And on and on... Keep increasing their capital.

[Catta 10]

well, perhaps I chose a wrong word to describe what I want to say.

I should have used the word "totalitarianism". This word definitely show what I was thinking about.

Speaking of totalitarianism, it reminds me a question which have bothered me for a long time:

Here are two choices, one is to become a citizen of an totalitarian society where no criminals exsist,

another is to be a democratic society citizen but you have to take care of yourself ( I mean the crime rate is terribly high ) , which one would you choose?

well, this would be another chatting topic then.

Frankly speaking, there is no perfect system for the masses.

All the politicians can do is to choose a suitable one or try to adjust one to fit into the society.

I was just trying to find the pros and cons of these two =w=

[訪客]

Frankly speaking, there is no perfect system for the masses.

All the politicians can do is to choose a suitable one or try to adjust one to fit into the society.

I thought the only thing those politicians do is behaving like an idiot...:P

[MikiRei 10]

I thought the only thing those politicians do is behaving like an idiot.

Correction: They ARE idiots.

[YuSuKe 10]

The book "1984" is one of my favorite books.

My English is not very good, and the problem bothers me is that the translation of 1984 is very bad.

Through that, we can also take the point or sense by read the translation.

George Orwell had written another book called "Animal Farm",

it is one of the great master pieces, too.

[MikiRei 10]

Haha. Animal Farm. Brings back traumatic memories. >_>

The book was great - loved it - incredibly interesting for a 13 year old. However, the CARTOON adaption of the story shown to a 6 year old.......is MOST disturbing.

Nonetheless, yes, it is a masterpiece.

[YuSuKe 10]

In fact, the novel is usually be translated as children's books in Taiwan.xd

[abtvctkto61 10]

The book's name strongly suggests that its a chidrens' book, though it certain contains stuff most children cannot comprehend.

[geniusjl 10]

By the way, was Winston killed at the end of the novel.